The false prophets and their deceived followers twist things around to try and make divination that Yahweh has forbidden into something He approves of. This is a deception because Yahweh has never changed and He does not approve of either date setting or the methods used to set dates. Many of these people claim using the stars and heavenly bodies to forecast the future is astronomy but not astrology because "Yahweh formed the mazzaroth and it was corrupted by the pagans" to somehow make using the zodiac (another name for mazzaroth) is okay to use to predict future events. Using the mazzaroth / zodiac to forecast events is what the horoscopes are. There is no difference between horoscopes and using the sun/moon/sta/planetr patterns to predict the rapture or any other event although this is exactly what the "Revelation 12 sign" of september 23, 2017 is all about - making a forecast based on sun/moon/star/planets.
Those that are deceived by the false prophets would rather look toward their false prophet "god(s)" and the false signs their false prophet "god(s)" predict than obey what Yahweh says. Theyn love having their ears tickled with lies and cannot stand to hear the truth - just as the bible said would happen in the last of the last days.
Deuteronomy 18An enchanter is one who interprets omens.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
Jeremiah 23
25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
2 Timothy 4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
After the rapture, fake "christians" will likely fall into two camps. The first group is the wolves, false prophets, those who have bought into heretical lies of the apostate church, those who have bought into replacement theology - those who have been given over to a reprobate mind and will believe The Lie after the rapture. They were pretend Christians who likely were never saved but pretended to be in order to deceive and fleece the flock:
Romans 1The second camp may be those who are sincere (sincerely wrong) believers that have not bought into heresy although were not obeying Torah because "we are under graaaace, not the laaaaaw". These people may have a chance to repent while those who are false prophets, false teachers, and have boughten into heresy will be given over to The Lie and will accept antichrist's mark and have no chance to repent.
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
2 Thessalonians 2
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Matthew 7Again - iniquity means not obeying Yahweh's instructions found in the first five books of the bible --- the Torah or "the law"
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. G458
The law is not the law of the land or laws of man - they are the laws Yahweh gave us: The TorahStrong's number G458 iniquity (transliterated as anomia) :
anomia
1) the condition of without law
a) because ignorant of it
b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
John 8Okay - back to the topic of this post. Many of the deceived followers of the false prophets are so deceived they justify the "Revelation 12 sign" false prophecy by claiming it is ASTRONOMY and "not astrology" and that those who claim this false prophecy is astrology are the ones who do not know the difference.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Astronomy is science (whether valid science or not) it is such things as measuring the distance between heavenly bodies, whether the universe is heliocentric or geocentric, whether the earth is a sphere or flat, etc --- things that can be measured and theorized.
In contrast, astrology is using the heavenly bodies to make a prediction of the future. This is divination and is what the pagans use to come up with horoscopes. There is no science in these predictions --- it is such things as claiming the moon is in scorpio means a metiorite will strike the earth within seven days. There is no science to back up astrology. Those who use a pattern in the heavenlies to mean a certain event will happen is using astrology as a divination and is NOT using astrononomy in spite of what they claim. Omens are forbidden in the bible. Omens are claiming something will happen base on another event happening. One example of an omen is impending judgment on a nation that has a total solar eclipse pass over it.
ESV
Leviticus 19:26 "You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes.
Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer
The KJV uses enchanter for one who interprets omens.
Messiah Yeshua said NO ONE knows the day or the hour (although we are to know the season of His return) and He tells those who follow Him to look up and keep watch because we DO NOT KNOW when He will return --- He never said to follow a false prophet who set a date and watch that date - He clearly stated - those who are living in the end times and know the season - that we were NOT going to know the day or the time of His return. Messiah also states that it is the wicked servant who says that He cannot return until later.
Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Matthew 24
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The false prophets teach Messiah Yeshua cannot return today but HAS TO return on the date they derived from astrology, numerology, license plates, omens, divination, etc. and Messiah Yeshua clearly stated that those who lived during the time of His return would NOT KNOW the day or the hour He would return. Yeshua certainly knew about all of the date setting false prophets and all of the date setting false prophecies so if He was going to reveal the date of His return why did He state for us to KEEP WATCH (every single second of every single minute of every single hour of every single day, etc.) instead of telling us to not watch until the [false] prophets revealed the date? If you are whoring after a date setting false prophet in direct opposition to what Messiah Yeshua said then you are following a false prophet / false "god" and are not following Messiah Yeshua and are NOT one of Yahweh's children - you are DECEIVED or are an infiltrator who is DECEIVING OTHERS.
If you are a true follower of Messiah Yeshua and living in obedience to Yahweh's instructions, you would renounce all of the false prophets and not pay any attention to them - they are a test by Yahweh to see who truly loves and cleaves to Him and who are false --- He is dividing the sheep from the goats and seeing who is warm and cold or sitting on the fence so Messiah can spew the lukewarm fence sitters out of His mouth.
The lying sign / wonder of the september 23, 2017 "Revelation 12 sign" is a repeat of the failed "Revelation 12 sign" failed prophecy (the first was september 23, 2015) from the very same false prophets. The deceived followers of these false prophets will continue to whore after the false prophets even if Yeshua does not return this year (He could return today) and the false prophets divine new "rapture dates" using what Yahweh forbids His followers to use. Doesn't anyone care what Yahweh says? Where is the discernment of those who claim to love Yahweh and follow Messiah Yeshua?
John14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
John15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1 John 2
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.