David Nathan is a Jewish "bible teacher" who has once again proven himself to be a false teacher as well as one who is condescending towards those who follow Messiah Yeshua. Mr. Nathan not only criticizes those who obey Messiah, he also calls them "Judaizers" which proves he has absolutely no understanding of what a Judaizer is and is using it to discredit those who are obedient to Yahweh's instructions. Apparently Mr. Nathan hates gentiles so much he claims they do not have to obey what Yahweh says in His instructions when Messiah Yeshua said He will reject those who do not obey Torah.
For the false accusation by David Nathan that those who obey Yahweh are "Judaizers", please see my previous post: What is a Judaizer?
Here is what Mr. Nathan wrote in a recent facebook post that was shared by one of my facebook friends who apparently does not fully understand what Messiah Yeshua clearly taught.
A typical response I write to modern Judaizers that never gets responded to directly when I am challenged by them for not teaching that gentiles must keep the Sabbath
Dear H.....
In Acts chapter 15 the entire leadership of the early church met to discuss the issue of how gentiles were to serve the Lord. After much debate, the Holy Spirit gave them a very clear answer which they all agreed on. This leading of the Holy Spirit as recorded in this passage of scripture became the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ and not the opinion and teaching of David Nathan or any other man. In fact the Bible records that every apostle, elder and leader at the Jerusalem council were in 100% agreement with instruction that was given them by the Holy Spirit.
So please read chapter 15 of Acts and if you can find one indication that you as a gentile are instructed to keep the Law and Sabbath or if you can find one teaching from the apostles to this effect then you are at liberty to criticize my doctrine. However, if you are unable to, then please just obey the word and do not let the old enemy of the church deceive you as he did the early church even after they were given clear instruction by the Holy Spirit and many were led astray by the Judaizers who had no authority in the early church but were seen by the apostles as enemies of the cross as outlined in the book of Galatians.
In service of the Lord and His Word,
David Nathan
The verse in Acts 15 that David Nathan as well as other false teachers leave out is that the church was expected to learn the law every Sabbath in the Synagogues:
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.This verse shows the gentiles were, indeed, observing the Sabbath and were in the Synagogues.
Act s 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Up until the bar Kokhba revolt of ~135 AD, the early church worshiped in the Synagogues with the Jews that worshiped Yaweh but were not followers of Yeshua as their Messiah. At this time, bar Kokhba was called the messiah and the believers in Yeshua were told they had to accept bar Kokhba as the Messiah and if they refused, they were kicked out of the Synagogues. Of course followers of Yeshua knew bar Kokhba was not the Messiah because they knew Who the Messiah was (Yeshua) so that is when the believers left the Synagogues and when the "church" started becoming paganized.
NOWHERE in scripture does it say that the gentiles were not to keep Yahweh's instructions ("The Law") Many false teachers twist the words of the apostle Paul and use that to justify their rebellion.
First - if the apostle Paul or anyone else taught against "The Law" (Which I will refer to as Torah), they would have been rejected as being false as shown in Acts 17. Remember, the ONLY scripture the Bereans had was the Old Testament because the New Testament had not been written yet.
Acts 17
10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
If the apostle Paul or any of the other apostles had taught against what is in scripture, then they are false teachers and false apostles. The apostle Paul warned if any spirit came and taught against scripte (which was only the Old Testament when he wrote that) then that spirit is a false spirit and accursed by Yahweh.
Galatians 1In Acts if Peter had accepted the spirit that had told them it was okay to eat pork, shellfish, etc. then he was seduced by a false spirit. Because Peter knew it was Yahweh and that Yahweh would not speak against His instructions, Peter knew that the vision was not about the acceptance of meats Yahweh had called an abomination to eat so he pondered the meaning of the vision until the interpretation was made clear what it meant - that gentiles were to be fully accepted as equals to them. I have taught about this in a previous blog post.
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Acts 10
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,
The true interpretation of the vision was lgiven a few verses later:
Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.Throughout the New Testament, the apostles kept the Sabbath (as did Messiah Yeshua when He was with them) and never ate anything Yahweh said to not eat. If Messiah Yeshua had done so He never would have been accepted as the unblemished (sin free) Lamb of God that took away the sins of this world. Messiah Yeshua's resurrection was proof His death on the cross was accepted as payment for the sins of the world.
While some false teachers claim that Torah is not for today, others (usually Jewish false teachers who observe Torah) claim it is only "for the Jews" but "gentiles do not have to "go under the law" " Let's see what the bible teaches on this.
First, the law was clearly given before it was re-given to Moses on Mt Sinai. I have written about this several times before so I will just briefly mention them and let you look up the scripture references. Cain and Abel both knew about sacrifice and this is show when Abel's sacrifice was accepted by Yahweh but Cain's was not. Noah took two pair of the unclean animals and seven pair of the clean animals so obviously there were instructions before the flood which animals were for food and which were not. Noah sacrificed to Yahweh after the flood. Abraham lived shortly after Noah's death (and was born and died while Shem was still alive) and knew about sacrifcing to Yahweh and offered his son Issac (and Yahweh substituted a lamb for Issac) Job who most believe was a contemporary of Abraham sacrificed for the sins of his sons and daughters. Before the Exodus, Moses told Pharoah that the Jewish People wanted to go out into the wilderness to sacrifce to Yahweh. All of these were before the law was re-given to Moses during the Exodus.
A Chapter before Moses was given the law, the instruction was given about oberving the Sabbath. When Moses was given the ten commandments, the fourth commandment said to remember the Sabbath. While Moses was given the rest of the Torah, the gentiles that were with Israel (IE: grafted in) were told they were to observe the same commandments as Israel was given. This shows the false Jewish teachers that claim the law is okay for the Jews but "not for the gentiles" either do not know scripture or they are intentionally trying to keep the gentiles from following Messiah Yeshua as He instructed us to follow Him.
Exodus 12The apostle Paul wrote that the gentiles are GRAFTED IN to Israel - not the other way around - and partaking from the same root - Messiah Yeshua - it makes no sense especially in light of the instructions in the old testament that gentile believers do not have to obey Yahweh but the Jewish believers do.
48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
Deuteronomy 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
Romans 11Messiah Yeshua is the Living Torah (the Word) who existed before the earth was created and was the one who gave the old testament instructions for us to follow.
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
John 1Yeshua being God means His instructions are what is in the Old Testament. As the unblemished sin free Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world, Messiah Yeshua, like the apostle Paul, NEVER spoke contrary to what scripture taught - and the only scripture He spoke was the old testament. If Messiah Yeshua had changed the law, then He would not be the God who is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow as scripture says He is.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
In Peter's second epistle, he clearly warns that people will twist the apostle Paul's words to make it say what they want it say and will fall from their firmly held belief and be led away with the error of the wicked.
2 Peter 3There are many false teachers (and their deceived parrots --- oops followers) when shown the verses that say we are to obey Messiah Yeshua's commandments or He will call those who claim to love Him but do not obey Him 'liars' they claim that we have to obey what He said in the new testament but we do not have to obey Torah (Old Testament) The bible exposes these liars for the false teachers / followers for what they are - liars.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.When given the above verses, many of these false teachers / followers claim Messiah Yeshua only gave us two commandments: To love God and to love our neighbors and they reject having to obey any of the old testament instructions Yahweh gave us.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1 John 2
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Matthew 22
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
What does it mean to love God?
1 John 5If anyone is still confused about whether we need to obey God or only a few commandments that a concensus of "christians" believe we are suppose to obey while ignoring the ones they disagree with, Messiah Yeshua said He will reject those who "do ministry for Him" if they do not obey GOD's commandments - meaning Torah:
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.Strong's number G458 iniquity (transliterated as anomia) :
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. G458
anomia
1) the condition of without law
a) because ignorant of it
b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
And if that still is not clear:
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.Many of these false teachers / followers claim we need to "obey the moral law but not the Levitical law" yet I find no scripture that divides the laws up into categories like this. I find scripture in Isaiah that speaks of the end times and how Yahweh is angry at those who eat swine's flesh (and the mouse, etc) who claim they are holier than others as well as scripture that states the Sabbath is still to be observed today. Some people claim Messiah Yeshua is "our Sabbath rest" as an excuse to not observe what we are told to observe. Yesh, Yeshua will be our rest in the Millenial Kingdom - the seventh day - but we are still told to observe Yahweh's Sabbath today as the disciples / apostles continued to do after Messiah Yeshua's ascension (if they had not, they would have been called false teachers)
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 4This is speaking of the time Israel became a nation again in 1948
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken afterward of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his.
11 Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.
Isaiah 66
8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.
10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:
---17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Isaiah 56
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
Isaiah 65
1 I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.
2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;
3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;
4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
5 Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.
