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Saturday, July 29, 2017

Flat earth truth and demonic deceptions of the "flat earth movement"

In a previous post    Revelation 12 and the heretical 'manifest sons of god' teaching  ,    I gave two bible verses that showed a geocentric still earth:
Joshua 10
12  Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13  And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14  And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

Isaiah 38
7  And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
8  Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
This could not have happened if the earth were spinning and revolving around the sun.  Because of these verses (and others) I have believed the earth was geocentric and still ever since I first read them over 40 years ago.  At that time, I still believed the earth was a sphere (globe) and did not think much about it until recently.  I remember exclaiming to my dad (when he was still alive) whenever NASA released another alleged picture of the earth "That cannot be the earth" especially after NASA released the picture where North America was shown to cover almost all of the visible part of the earth and South America was left out which was contrary to their previous released picture.

The last 2-3 years, I started seeing videos about the flat earth and people discussing it on facebook and on forums.  I thought they were not quite with it and just wrote it off as yet another idiotic conspiracy theory such as chemtrails and the mandela affect all the while keeping my eyes open and seeing if I could disprove the flat earth.  From what I was able to see when I was told I should not be able to plus the high altitude balloon videos that showed no curve to the earth I have concluded that the earth was more likely than not flat as well as geocentric.



Green Bay, WI 31 miles from Bay Shore Park Oconto, WI
According to the earth curvature calculator, 505 feet should be hidden behind the earth's curvature.  Since the tallest building in Green Bay, WI is 120 feet, anything in Green Bay should not have been able to be seen.

  

While flat earth is important part of this post, belief in flat earth is not.  This post is NOT trying to prove or disprove the shape of the earth (flat or sphere)  but is about the poison that is being included in the flat earth movement and there is a LOT of poison added to it.

Most of those who are most vocal and popular in the flat earth movement are not Christian or are Christian with heretical doctrines they claim are believed by all who believe in flat earth.   I will refer to these people as the "flat earth leaders".    Many who believe "they" (NASA / government) are "totally deceptive" and who believe in the very controversial flat earth are ripe to accept anything else that these "flat earth leaders" tell them whether there is proof of it or not even if it is heretical and demonic.

I will go over some of these "flat earth leaders" and the lies and heresy they teach and why a follower of Messiah Yeshua should NOT be yoked with them regardless of what little truth they do teach.  I will then show how this relates to other aspects within the church and why it is very important to not be unequally yoked (whether in ministry, business, or marriage)

The first "flat earth leader" that people, including "christians" follow is the one who renewed interest in flat earth research.is Eric Dubay.  Dubay is a American new ager who teaches yoga in Thailand.  He introduces new age beliefs with his discussions of the flat earth.  Most people who believe the earth is flat will accept anything he says without question.

Phuket Word is a youtuber that lives in Phuket, Thailand.  I'm not sure of his association with Eric Dubay or if they are the same person.  This person includes budhism and budhist teachings in his discussions of flat earth.

Jeranism is a youtuber who monetizes his videos and it is unclear whether he makes flat earth videos because he believes it, or the ad revenue, or both.  Jeranism is not a follower of Messiah Yeshua and is either a pagan or secular humanist.  MANY flat earth believers accept whatever he says without question.

Paul On A Plane is a youtuber who desperately wants to become one of the "flat earth leaders" and will grasp at anything he can to gain views on his videos.  His non-scientific stupidity in carrying out "experiments: is nothing but brainwashing and is definitely not scientific.  Someone posted on his video that another youtuber channeled someone (IE: consulted demons) that was "on the other side of the dome" and he was excited to go find that video so he could make money off of that ear tickling demonic teaching.

The ministry 'Celebrate Truth' livestreams on youtube and they claim to be Christians that believe in a flat earth.  MANY "christians" chat there and while they talk the Christian talk, under closer scrutiny you find out they believe replacement theology and the demonic serpent seed doctrine (the belief that the Jewish people are physical descendants of Eve and satan).   They also are yoked to the teachings of Steven Anderson and Texe Marrs who also teach the serpent seed doctrine.  I emailed the channel owner Robbie Davidson / Celebrate Truth and he never responded to my query whether this was his belief or only the belief of 90% of his youtube channel moderators.

Another infamous "flat earth leader" that believes in the satanic serpent seed doctrine is Zen Garcia - who Rob Skiba is good buddies with (Skiba denies believing in replacement theology but that is what he teaches)  This goes to show how deception can be introduced by those who otherwise have some truth.  Like many in the Messianic movement, Skiba has taken it too far and believes that the church is the "real Israel" and those who are in Israel are "fake Jews".    Both Zen Garcia and Rob Skiba bring in deception subtly along with the research and truth about the flat earth.

"pastor" Dean Odle also teaches the flat earth and has some intelligent videos on it.  The problem is, Dean Odle is part of the apostate church system 'five fold ministry' that accepts as truth such demonic heresies as the "Toronto Blessing" and such demonic heretics as Todd Bentley and ihop / NAR heretics.

All of the "flat earth leaders" (and wanna be leaders) mentioned above claim all flat earth believers also believe the mandela affect is real (I wrote about that stupidity previously), chemtrails are real (most ridiculous thing I've ever heard) and all of them teach that "satellites are not real"  They also teach, due to their ignorance and/or stupidity that "the sun is within the clouds".  Many also claim all flat earthers have to accept every conspiracy theory that they, the "leader", believes in (after all, "I'm the expert and leader so you have to believe everything I believe.")  These people have set their selves up to be worshiped as "gods".

Whenever you point out their fallacies, they ignore what is stated and their blinded followers defend them.  While I can give numerous examples, I will just give a couple of examples so you can see their blindness.

Back in the 1980's, large satellite receiving dishes were very popular.  These 10' dishes were able to receive different satellites when moved (electronically) to point to the satellite location.  Hundreds of channels could be received from all around the United States / world including live unedited feeds from the television networks.  This was long before cell phone towers existed.

Satellite phones work in the jungles of Africa and South America where there are no cell phone towers.  I mention cell phone towers because these "flat earth leaders" claim "satellites are not real, they work off of cell phone towers".

Another example is where one "flat earth leader wanna be" was showing air routes on a flat earth map and his calculations from the flight was based on directions using the north pole as reference instead of magnetic north and he could not figure out why his route was so wrong.  His error was pointed out to him and he made no correction whle mirroring the video again (with monetizing on it, of course)  This person could not even grasp the concept that a cell phone level is electronic and measures the same angle relative to the ground no matter on where in the world it is at just as a person is perpendicular to the ground no matter which country they are in.  He continues to spew his stupidity and his deceived followers continue to defend him.

Just as in flat earth, heretics within the church also use the same tactics to deceive Christians into believing and following their heretical teachings.  Hillsong has a FEW good songs to lure people into their deceptive heretical poison where anything goes as long as you 'name the name of Jesus' while doing it.  This was shown recently when Justin Beiber went to a New Zealand bar with a Hillsong pastor where both were drinking heavily and Beiber started stripping in the bar.  Brian Houston, founder of the Hillsong cult, accepts homosexual leaders in the church, sees nothing wrong with having naked cowboys entertain in the woman's groups, and has incorporated all forms of blasphemy within the Hillsong cult.  A few good songs have lured numerous people into the web of the Hillsong apostasy.

satan is a deceiver and has numerous hooks of truth to lure people into lies and deception whether it be some truth of flat earth to lure people into all sorts of lies or whether it be a few good Hillsong songs to lure them into the great apostate Hillsong movement.  Be careful of what you believe and who you follow.  Do not yoke to unbelievers or even believers with heretical beliefs whether in ministry, business, or marriage because the other party / parties have some truth - remember satan uses a little truth to get people to compromise and swallow his lies and will use that little bit of truth to stumble you and make you fall if at all possible.

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