One member posted that if people you know are on their way to hell, you do not need to pray for them or witness to them after warning them. This person has no clue about what eternity holds for these "friends" unless their friends repent.
If one truly understands the eternal consequences of the unrepentant, they would do anything they could to stop their friends and family from going to hell. Jude says we are to snatch them from the fire if need be.
Jude 1
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
How do we love God?There are those who are reprobate and Yahweh says to not pray for them because He knows they will never repent and He has given those who darkened their hearts (black hearted) over to a reprobate mind. Yahweh says to not pray for them:
1 John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Romans 1
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Jeremiah 11
11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.
12 Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble.
13 For according to the number of thy cities were thy gods, O Judah; and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to that shameful thing, even altars to burn incense unto Baal.
14 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.
Many have already made a choice and will not repent. You can see this throughout the apostate church movement (ihop / hillsong / bethel-redding and all of the ilk associated with them) They have been given over to a strong delusion - a reprobate mind. If you look at the apostate church movement, you can see the widespread deception that is like a cancer in the "church". They cannot see that they are not following Messiah yet they claim they are. They (mis)quote bible verses to justify their rebellion and false doctrines. Many justify their willful sin of divorce / remarriage, fornication, adultery, idolatry, and even homosexuality. They claim they are "Christians" and ignore the warnings the bible gives about their sin (often twisting the words of the apostle Paul to do so)
Galatians 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Many people love their false prophets and false teachers and will cling to them regardless of how much rebellion their leaders are committing against Yahweh. They are blind and do not realize they are on their way to hell and, like the proverbial frog, will not realize their fate until it is too late for them
Matthew 24:
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Many of these false teachers will deceive others by sneaking into their home (via the internet) with their false prophecies and false teachings. These wicked false prophets / teachers will lie about others, despise those who follow Messiah Yeshua and are obedient to Torah, covet what others have, and will commit all sorts of evil against those who obey Yahweh while they, themselves, claim to be believers.
2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
I was a victim of self-professed "christians" who claimed to be my friends who totally fit this description and plotted to destroy me. The two leaders plotted against me and set me up to be destroyed by some evil demon possessed completely rebellious (against Yahweh) people in Wisconsin. The one guy who set out to destroy me us black hearted and Yahweh has told me no amount of prayer will be heard for him because he is black hearted and set on his rebellious ways. The other guy, as hard as I have tried to stop praying for him, Yahweh continues to place it on my heart to pray for. I do not believe he will repent since he likes the fellowship of evildoers he has yoked himself to although I continue to pray because Yahweh lays it on my heart to do so. I'm not sure if he was deceived with the numerous lies told about me (I have not found out what all of them were) or if he was the one who masterminded the plot to destroy me (if that was the case, I'm not sure Yahweh would have me continue to pray for him???) Regardless, out of obedience I pray he was deceived by the others and Yahweh opens his eyes before it is too late for him. It would take a miracle to heal the friendship (if there really was one) that the evildoers destroyed by their lies and slander.
1 John 5
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Yahweh will show you who to pray for and you need to be obedient and pray for them. Yahweh will also show you those who you are to not pray for because those people have already given themselves to rebellion and have made their choice to follow after their own lusts and deeper deception.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
I have come to find in my life that people are a test. There are those you care for that are rebellious and are Yahweh's enemies and they are a test to see if you love your friends / family more than Yahweh or will cleave to Yahweh and follow Him. They are also a test to see if you will pray for them in obedience as Yahweh lays it on your heart to do so. Sometimes I wonder if it was similar with the angels who followed satan out of loyalty to their friends (do angels have friends?) - something had to make so many angels rebel and follow lucifer (satan)The following can be applied to false prophets, false teachers, politicians, or even friends or family. Who is more important to you - Yahweh or those who tickle your ears with their lies???
Deuteronomy 13
1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
2 Timothy 4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Now is the time to repent and make amends to those you have harmed. If you refuse to ask for forgiveness, Yahweh will not forgive you. If the one you harmed is a believer, they will forgive you otherwise they will not be forgiven. Yahweh wants reconciliation of those who truly follow Messiah Yeshua. The brothers / sisters in Yeshua are to dwell in harmony (that does not include the wolves / false brethren) and the only way that will happen is repentance and to expel the wolves / false believers. Fellowship with evildoers and demons "in harmony" leads to hell as they seduce you into believing you are on your way to heaven. Those who follow Messiah must follow Him in Spirit and in Truth.
John 4
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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