In a previous post, I posted about the false teachings on Revelation 12 (the book of Revelation chapter 12 in the bible) and in this post will examine how the "man child" is definitely not the church which is identified throughout scripture of Messiah's bride.
Since I posted the entire chapter 12 of Revelation very recently ( False teachings on Revelation 12 ) , I will not do so in this post.
When one comes up with a bible teaching, it must be confirmed with scripture and not just what you think it could mean because you wish it to be so. Those who are bible teachers will be held accountable for what they teach and everything needs to line up with scripture and not contradict what scripture says. Even the apostle Paul's teachings were confirmed by scripture (and the only scripture then was the Old Testament) Teachers will be judged more severely because of what they teach.
Acts 17
10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, since you know that we will be judged more severely.
The church is often identified as Messiah Yeshua's bride
Ephesians 5
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh.
32 This mystery is great: but I speak in regard of Christ and of the church.
2 Corinthians 11
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
John 14
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Matthew 25
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
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10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
There is not a single bible verse in either the old or new testaments where the church is identified as a "man child" as some are now [falsely] teaching. Every allusion to a man child in the bible is of Messiah, not His bride. Those who are claiming the "man child" in Revelation 12:5 is the church are uneducated and are making up teachings that are not confirmed in scripture, Their teaching the "man child" is the saved believers who are corporately "born again" has no scriptural basis whatsoever and contradicts what scripture clearly teaches.. Their teaching that the "man child church" is raptured and is the one who will rule with a rod of iron is stating that Messiah's bride - the church - is male is making the claim that Messiah is a homosexual and a pedophile if His bride is a male man-child bride.
The Revelation 12 teaching that the church is the "man child" is so heretical that if anyone believes this false teaching is so deluded they will believe the lie that Yahweh will give to those who reject the truth. The latter-rain "manifest sons of God" false doctrine is not new and is taught by the TBN (trinity broadcasting network) heretics among others - this latter rain page (a heretical teaching) identifies the "man child" in Revelation 12 as their [false] prophets of their movement: heretical latter-rain page Looking at that page with the false latter rain teachings, it was posted almost 4 years ago ( Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:26:52 AM )
2 Thessalonians 2
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The time is short. Those who are being deceived are being deceived with such obvious heresies that they have to already be under the strong delusion Yahweh will send after the rapture. If you can see what is going on and how deceitful these false teachers are, you need to disavow these teachers and follow Messiah Yeshua and obey what Yahweh says His followers are to do.
The Revelation 12 false teachings are just rehashed Joel's Army / Kingdom Now (dominionism) / manifest son's of God heresies that NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) , IHOP (international house of prayer) heretics, and all their associated leaders have been teaching for generations (long before the "Kansas City Prophets" which these groups came from). This is just rehashed to make it seem different so it will be accepted by many who lack discernment and who love the smooth sounding words of the false teachers.
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False teachings on Revelation 12
It seems most youtube bible "teachers" want to come up with something new to sell books or gain popularity and/ or ad revenue. One of the "newest" (actually rehashed false teachings) heretical teachings that have come out of this popularity contest is the teachings regarding Revelation 12.
Revelation 12
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The newly rehashed [false] teachings on Revelation 12 is that the man child is the church and is corporately "born again" when the woman gives birth and the man child "the church" is raptured to heaven. This is an obviously false teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture. This false teaching leads to the acceptance of other heretical teachings such as dominionism, "manifest sons of God", and replacement theology.
There is so much wrong with this teaching it is amazing anyone accepts it as being remotely true. Only those that lack discernment and want their ears tickled with lies that sound good to them would ever accept this heresy
It is clear that the woman in Revelation 12 the woman is the Jewish people out of whom came the Messiah. The woman has the crown of 12 stars - the 12 tribes of Israel. The woman is identified in Genesis 3
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
This is also confirmed by one of Joseph's dreams
Genesis 37:9 Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.” (Joseph's descendants are the 12th star)
The teachers that are promoting the heresy claim the man child is the church. The problem with this teaching is that nowhere in scripture is the church identified as the Man Child. Believing that the church will rule the world is dominionist / kingdom now theology.
Revelation 12: 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Dominionism, or kingdom now, is the teaching that "christians" will take over the world making it good enough for Jesus to come back and rule:
https://gotquestions.org/kingdom-now.html
Psalms 2
7 "I will proclaim the decree: Adonai said to me, 'You are my son; today I became your father.
8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance; the whole wide world will be your possession.
9 You will break them with an iron rod, shatter them like a clay pot.' "
Revelation 19
13 And he is arrayed in a garment sprinkled with blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.
15 And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty.
Yes, Yeshua's followers will be given power to rule with a rod of iron but it will be under the rule of Messiah not what the Revelation 12 heretics are claiming when they state the man child is the church.
Revelation 2
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Revelation 12 is partially historical and partially future. It give the entire history of the world from the time of Genesis after the fall to Messiah's millennial kingdom.
Yeshua's millennial rule. Anyone with an ounce of discernment can see the new teachings that are being made popular on youtube (and spreading elsewhere) do not have scriptural support. The "proof" they use that their [false] interpretation is correct is a zodiac sign that lines up with stars in a certain way. What they fail to mention is hat they used this same thing a few years ago to predict a [failed] rapture date and that the zodiac and stars line up that way every year in the fall.
This is one teaching that does not take very much discernment to see that it is false yet you have multitudes of people grasping at it because they love false prophecies.
2 Timothy 4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Revelation 12
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The newly rehashed [false] teachings on Revelation 12 is that the man child is the church and is corporately "born again" when the woman gives birth and the man child "the church" is raptured to heaven. This is an obviously false teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture. This false teaching leads to the acceptance of other heretical teachings such as dominionism, "manifest sons of God", and replacement theology.
There is so much wrong with this teaching it is amazing anyone accepts it as being remotely true. Only those that lack discernment and want their ears tickled with lies that sound good to them would ever accept this heresy
It is clear that the woman in Revelation 12 the woman is the Jewish people out of whom came the Messiah. The woman has the crown of 12 stars - the 12 tribes of Israel. The woman is identified in Genesis 3
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
This is also confirmed by one of Joseph's dreams
Genesis 37:9 Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.” (Joseph's descendants are the 12th star)
The teachers that are promoting the heresy claim the man child is the church. The problem with this teaching is that nowhere in scripture is the church identified as the Man Child. Believing that the church will rule the world is dominionist / kingdom now theology.
Revelation 12: 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Dominionism, or kingdom now, is the teaching that "christians" will take over the world making it good enough for Jesus to come back and rule:
https://gotquestions.org/kingdom-now.html
Kingdom Now theology is a theological belief within the Charismatic movement of Protestant Christianity, mainly in the United States. Kingdom Now proponents believe that God lost control over the world to Satan when Adam and Eve sinned. Since then, the theology goes, God has been trying to reestablish control over the world by seeking a special group of believers—known variously as "covenant people," "overcomers," or "Joel's army"—and that through these people, social institutions (including governments and laws) would be brought under God's authority. The belief is that, since believers are indwelt by the same Holy Spirit that indwelt Jesus, we have all authority in heaven and on the earth; we have the power to believe for and speak into existence things that are not, and thus we can bring about the Kingdom Age.The heretical Revelation 12 teaching that is gaining popularity on youtube ignores the identity of this child the woman gives birth to that will rule the nations with a rod of iron - it is Messiah Yeshua, NOT the church!
Psalms 2
7 "I will proclaim the decree: Adonai said to me, 'You are my son; today I became your father.
8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance; the whole wide world will be your possession.
9 You will break them with an iron rod, shatter them like a clay pot.' "
Revelation 19
13 And he is arrayed in a garment sprinkled with blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.
15 And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty.
Yes, Yeshua's followers will be given power to rule with a rod of iron but it will be under the rule of Messiah not what the Revelation 12 heretics are claiming when they state the man child is the church.
Revelation 2
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Revelation 12 is partially historical and partially future. It give the entire history of the world from the time of Genesis after the fall to Messiah's millennial kingdom.
Yeshua's millennial rule. Anyone with an ounce of discernment can see the new teachings that are being made popular on youtube (and spreading elsewhere) do not have scriptural support. The "proof" they use that their [false] interpretation is correct is a zodiac sign that lines up with stars in a certain way. What they fail to mention is hat they used this same thing a few years ago to predict a [failed] rapture date and that the zodiac and stars line up that way every year in the fall.
This is one teaching that does not take very much discernment to see that it is false yet you have multitudes of people grasping at it because they love false prophecies.
2 Timothy 4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
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