Revelation 12 and the heretical 'manifest sons of god' teaching

Sorry I have not posted for awhile.  Busy finishing school and a few other projects.  I start my new job next week so not sure how much time I will have to post although it won't be as long for the next one (Yahweh has already given me a few post He wants me to write about)

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Many people are getting excited by the "Revelation 12 sign" that is said to be happening on september 23 of this year.  This is the same false teaching that has been in the church for decades - re-wrapped and re-packaged to deceive more people.

Before ihop (the heretical international house of prayer) and it's related NAR (new apostolic reformation), there was an organization called the "Kansas City Prophets" (KCP) of which the same people involved in ihop, including ihop founder Mike Bickle, were part of. 

The KCP promoted William Branham (who taught the satanic serpent seed doctrine which is rising in acceptance), Joel's Army, and the "manifest sons of god" false teachings.  While I could write a book on the other heretical teachings of these people and the history of how they morphed from the KCP to ihop and NAR (I've posted some about this in the past) this post will focus on the widely popular and believed 'manifest sons of god' heretical teaching.

Astrology is forbidden by Yahweh.  Astrology is predicting events based on the position of the sun, moon, and stars. Yahweh has stated even if some of these predictions come to pass, those that teach them are false prophets because they are leading you to follow after other "gods" and He is using it as a test to see who really loves Him and who will forsake Him to run after the false prophets and their false "gods".  Astronomy is the studying of the sun/moon/stars to find out more about them - not using them as divination to find out what is going to happen (which is what astrology does)

Deuteronomy 13
1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4  Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 

The difference between astrology and between the sun, moon, stars being signs is that astrology uses the heavenly bodies to predict future events while a sign is something that happens without being able to predict it.  Most who love their ears tickled by false prophecies believe that signs can be predicted in the future.  Two examples of a sign in the heavenly bodies that was not able to be predicted by looking at the astrological charts was when the sun stood still for Joshua and when the sun moved back ten degrees

Joshua 10
12  Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13  And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14  And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

Isaiah 38
7  And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
8  Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down. 

(okay as much as I'm tempted I will not go off on a tangent and write about geocentricism and flat earth - another post later)

These were signs that were not prophesied and that were not able to be predicted by looking at the heavenly bodies - they were a TRUE sign.  Modern day events in the heavens that could be signs were the hurricanes that occurred after the U.S. caused Israel to give up land or recently where the UK was struck by 100,000 lightning strikes - (possible) signs but not anything that could have been predicted by astrological charts.

The KCP (and then its offspring ihop and NAR) has its roots in modern times in 1946-1948 during the William Branham healing "revivals".  William Branham claimed to be the end time "Elijah" after an angel visited him in 1946 and also taught and believed the satanic serpent seed doctrine (claiming the Jewish people were physical descendants of Eve and satan) which is gaining in popularity today with the likes of such popular "pastors" as the late Arnold Murray (Shepherd's Chapel), Texe Marrs, and now the widely popular demon possessed Steven L. Anderson.  Not surprisingly those who hold to this satanic serpent seed doctrine are among those who also hold to the other teachings that came from William Branham such as Joel's Army as well as the 'manifest sons of god; which this article is about.

The word faith teachers claim they are "little gods, small 'g' " and Kenneth Copeland said "cats have kittens, dogs have puppies, so what does God have?  Little 'small g' gods".  This came from William Branham and his teachings about the 'manifest sons of god' heretical doctrine.

First the passage in question:

Revelation 12
1  And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2  And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6  And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The woman is not the church.  The church is called the virgin bride of Yeshua so how is she pregnant?  There was only one virgin birth and that was Mary giving birth to Messiah Yeshua.   The church had not been formed yet therefore could not be the virgin who gave birth. This shows Mary came from Israel / the twelve tribes and, as a virgin,  gave birth to Messiah Yeshua.  satan tried to murder Yeshua shortly after His birth when he had all the babies in Bethlehem murdered.  Messiah was crucified and resurrected.  During the tribulation, the woman - symbolizing Israel- will hide in a place Yahweh provided for them (most believe will be Petra) 

Reading scripture, the stars, sun, and moon were given in a dream to Joseph.

Genesis 37:9  And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Notice that in his dream, he was shown 11 stars not 12.  Where was the other star?  He, Joseph, was of course the other star.

Here in 2017, a widely popular false teaching that tickle peoples ears is that in Revelation 12 the woman is the church as well as that the manchild ("Jesus IN us") is the also the church and when the manchild is caught up, it is the rapture and they use astrology to "prove" this event will happen on september 23, 2017.  Those promoting this false teaching claims that the "man child is the church and where He is caught up proves the rapture.  Since this "sign" occurs on september 23, 2017, they claim that will be the date of the rapture.  They claim this sign "has not happened in 2000 years" further bolstering their prophecy yet the same false prophets had videos of the same "sign" 2-3 years ago and claimed it was "proof the rapture was going to happen that year" which, of course, it did not happen.  This heresy is not new even though Scotty Clarke and those whose ears have been tickled with this lie believes it is something new he discovered.

THIS IS ASTROLOGY AND IS NOT FOR YAHWEH'S PEOPLE

Those who hold to the heretical replacement theology false doctrines (of which serpent seed is the most demonic form) of course claim the woman is "the church" because their entire false belief system claims the church has replaced Israel!  They have to hold to this false
doctrine to justify their heretical replacement theology beliefs.


Here are two heretical sites and what they say Revelation 12 means.  As you can see, this false teaching is not new - it is the same teaching that now has astrology yoked to it:

Reference (heretical doctrine)
http://www.sonstoglory.com/zionsonsJesuscomingreturn.htm

The "man child" being birthed in Revelation chapter 12 is Jesus the Christ - only it is "Christ IN us." Christ's Bride is a many membered body. Likewise, the child (or children) whom she births represents a many membered body. The creation eagerly waits for the revealing of these sons of God because they will manifest Jesus Himself. Jesus alone is the only glory that is worth eagerly waiting for. Anything that comes from us is less than worthless; it is dangerous, because the flesh is always in conflict with the Spirit. Even heresy (false doctrine) is listed as a "work of the flesh" which is far from harmless, because it ends up bringing bondage and death.

Reference (heretical doctrine)
http://www.sigler.org/shofar/janeleade/grchpt4.htm

I will try not to plow the same ground twice, but the woman clothed in the sun is the Church in general, although not necessarily everything out there that calls itself the Church. She is made up of blood-washed, Spirit-baptized, called-out-ones who know no King but Christ. This Virgin Church, which has not known a man nor been implanted with man's "seed," is pregnant with a small remnant of those in whom Christ is coming to fullness.
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    The child which she brings forth is the Manchild company who are birthed into a higher realm, just as the baptism of the Holy Spirit is a higher realm than that of simply justification. The portion into which this body of people is birthed is that of the Spirit without measure; whereas the baptism of the Holy Spirit has been "according to the measure of every part." 
(this sounds new age)

This "Revelation 12 sign" is the same as the heretical 'manifest sons of god' teaching that is part of the Great Apostasy of ihop/NAR, Bethel-Redding, Hillsong, the word faith movement, etc.  It is not of Yahweh.  Messiah Yeshua said NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR and Yahweh does not honor those who DISOBEY and use astrology to try and find out what Messiah Yeshua said NO ONE KNOWS.  Those who claim to belong to Messiah Yeshua and are "doing things for Him" and are not OBEYING Yahweh are in danger of being cast into the lake of fire.

Matthew 7
21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquityG458

1 John 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Strong's number G458 iniquity (transliterated as anomia)   :
anomia
1) the condition of without law
     a) because ignorant of it
     b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

Note:
Verse 21 says the only ones doing Yahweh's will (IE: obeying the law) will enter heaven
Verse 22 says many will claim to be doing works and great things "For Yeshua" (in context, they are surprised - they were left behind)
Verse 23 says Messiah Yeshua will cast them off as unbelievers because they did not OBEY YAHWEH

Even if the september 23 prophecy comes to pass (it won't), Deuteronomy 13 says the it is a test because the false prophets are leading to a false "god" not revealed in scripture.  IF it happens (it won't) then the false prophets and their followers will be left behind and, of course, they will have an explanation and believe The Lie because they will refuse to believe it was the rapture since THEY are still here!

Scripture warns of Great Apostasy and deception in the last days.  satan knows time is short and he will do everything he can to repackage the same old lies ("ye will be like God") to deceive those who would rather have their ears tickled than follow and obey Messiah Yeshua.  Many infiltrators have been allowed inside of congregations / fellowships that are destroyed from within.  Many others will follow after false prophets and fall away then bring many others down the same broad road as they are on. Time to repent is now - we have very little time left whether it is before september 23 or sometime after it.  Judgment on the U.S. is about to strike and we may be judged before the rapture so the time to repent is NOW before it is too late not wait until before the date a false prophet conjured up with their astrology.

The false NAR / dominionist teachings of Revelation 12

In a previous post, I posted about the false teachings on Revelation 12 (the book of Revelation chapter 12 in the bible) and in this post will examine how the "man child" is definitely not the church which is identified throughout scripture of Messiah's bride.

Since I posted the entire chapter 12 of Revelation very recently ( False teachings on Revelation 12 ) , I will not do so in this post.

When one comes up with a bible teaching, it must be confirmed with scripture and not just what you think it could mean because you wish it to be so.  Those who are bible teachers will be held accountable for what they teach and everything needs to line up with scripture and not contradict what scripture says.  Even the apostle Paul's teachings were confirmed by scripture (and the only scripture then was the Old Testament)  Teachers will be judged more severely because of what they teach.

Acts 17
10  And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
11  These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12  Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

James 3:1  Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, since you know that we will be judged more severely.

The church is often identified as Messiah Yeshua's bride

Ephesians 5
31  For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh.
32  This mystery is great: but I speak in regard of Christ and of the church.

2 Corinthians 11
2  For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

John 14
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Matthew 25
1  Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
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10  And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11  Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12  But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13  Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.

Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

Rev 22:17  And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

There is not a single bible verse in either the old or new testaments where the church is identified as a "man child" as some are now [falsely] teaching.  Every allusion to a man child in the bible is of Messiah, not His bride.  Those who are claiming the "man child" in Revelation 12:5 is the church are uneducated and are making up teachings that are not confirmed in scripture,  Their teaching the "man child" is the saved believers who are corporately "born again" has no scriptural basis whatsoever and contradicts what scripture clearly teaches..  Their teaching that the "man child church" is raptured and is the one who will rule with a rod of iron is stating that Messiah's bride - the church - is male is making the claim that Messiah is a homosexual and a pedophile if His bride is a male man-child bride.

The Revelation 12 teaching that the church is the "man child" is so heretical that if anyone believes this false teaching is so deluded they will believe the lie that Yahweh will give to those who reject the truth.  The latter-rain "manifest sons of God" false doctrine is not new and is taught by the TBN (trinity broadcasting network) heretics among others - this latter rain page (a heretical teaching) identifies the "man child" in Revelation 12 as their [false] prophets of their movement:  heretical latter-rain page  Looking at that page with the false latter rain teachings, it was posted almost 4 years ago ( Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:26:52 AM )

2 Thessalonians 2
10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The time is short.  Those who are being deceived are being deceived with such obvious heresies that they have to already be under the strong delusion Yahweh will send after the rapture.  If you can see what is going on and how deceitful these false teachers are, you need to disavow these teachers and follow Messiah Yeshua and obey what Yahweh says His followers are to do.

The Revelation 12 false teachings are just rehashed Joel's Army / Kingdom Now (dominionism) / manifest son's of God heresies that NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) , IHOP (international house of prayer) heretics, and all their associated leaders have been teaching for generations (long before the "Kansas City Prophets" which these groups came from).  This is just rehashed to make it seem different so it will be accepted by many who lack discernment and who love the smooth sounding words of the false teachers.

False teachings on Revelation 12

It seems most youtube bible "teachers" want to come up with something new to sell books or gain popularity and/ or ad revenue.  One of the "newest" (actually rehashed false teachings) heretical teachings that have come out of this popularity contest is the teachings regarding Revelation 12.

Revelation 12
1  And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2  And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6  And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7  And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12  Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13  And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14  And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15  And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16  And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The newly rehashed [false] teachings on Revelation 12 is that the man child is the church and is corporately "born again" when the woman gives birth and the man child "the church" is raptured to heaven.  This is an obviously false teaching that has absolutely no basis in scripture.  This false teaching leads to the acceptance of other heretical teachings such as dominionism, "manifest sons of God", and replacement theology. 

There is so much wrong with this teaching it is amazing anyone accepts it as being remotely true.   Only those that lack discernment and want their ears tickled with lies that sound good to them would ever accept this heresy

It is clear that the woman in Revelation 12 the woman is the Jewish people out of whom came the Messiah. The woman has the crown of 12 stars - the 12 tribes of Israel.  The woman is identified in Genesis 3

Genesis 3:15  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This is also confirmed by one of Joseph's dreams

Genesis 37:9 Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”    (Joseph's descendants are the 12th star)

The teachers that are promoting the heresy claim the man child is the church.  The problem with this teaching is that nowhere in scripture is the church identified as the Man Child.  Believing that the church will rule the world is dominionist / kingdom now theology.

Revelation 12: 5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Dominionism, or kingdom now, is the teaching that "christians" will take over the world making it good enough for Jesus to come back and rule:

https://gotquestions.org/kingdom-now.html

Kingdom Now theology is a theological belief within the Charismatic movement of Protestant Christianity, mainly in the United States. Kingdom Now proponents believe that God lost control over the world to Satan when Adam and Eve sinned. Since then, the theology goes, God has been trying to reestablish control over the world by seeking a special group of believers—known variously as "covenant people," "overcomers," or "Joel's army"—and that through these people, social institutions (including governments and laws) would be brought under God's authority. The belief is that, since believers are indwelt by the same Holy Spirit that indwelt Jesus, we have all authority in heaven and on the earth; we have the power to believe for and speak into existence things that are not, and thus we can bring about the Kingdom Age.

The heretical Revelation 12 teaching that is gaining popularity on youtube ignores the identity of this child the woman gives birth to that will rule the nations with a rod of iron - it is Messiah Yeshua, NOT the church!

Psalms 2
7  "I will proclaim the decree: Adonai said to me, 'You are my son; today I became your father.
8  Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance; the whole wide world will be your possession.
9  You will break them with an iron rod, shatter them like a clay pot.' "

Revelation 19
13  And he is arrayed in a garment sprinkled with blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14  And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.
15  And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty.

Yes, Yeshua's followers will be given power to rule with a rod of iron but it will be under the rule of Messiah not what the Revelation 12 heretics are claiming when they state the man child is the church.

Revelation 2
26  And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27  And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Revelation 12 is partially historical and partially future.  It give the entire history of the world from the time of Genesis after the fall to Messiah's millennial kingdom.

Yeshua's millennial rule.  Anyone with an ounce of discernment can see the new teachings that are being made popular on youtube (and spreading elsewhere) do not have scriptural support.  The "proof" they use that their [false] interpretation is correct is a zodiac sign that lines up with stars in a certain way.  What they fail to mention is hat they used this same thing a few years ago to predict a [failed] rapture date and that the zodiac and stars line up that way every year in the fall.

This is one teaching that does not take very much discernment to see that it is false yet you have multitudes of people grasping at it because they love false prophecies.

2 Timothy 4
3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.