Flat earth truth and demonic deceptions of the "flat earth movement"

In a previous post    Revelation 12 and the heretical 'manifest sons of god' teaching  ,    I gave two bible verses that showed a geocentric still earth:

Joshua 10
12  Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13  And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14  And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

Isaiah 38
7  And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
8  Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

This could not have happened if the earth were spinning and revolving around the sun.  Because of these verses (and others) I have believed the earth was geocentric and still ever since I first read them over 40 years ago.  At that time, I still believed the earth was a sphere (globe) and did not think much about it until recently.  I remember exclaiming to my dad (when he was still alive) whenever NASA released another alleged picture of the earth "That cannot be the earth" especially after NASA released the picture where North America was shown to cover almost all of the visible part of the earth and South America was left out which was contrary to their previous released picture.

The last 2-3 years, I started seeing videos about the flat earth and people discussing it on facebook and on forums.  I thought they were not quite with it and just wrote it off as yet another idiotic conspiracy theory such as chemtrails and the mandela affect all the while keeping my eyes open and seeing if I could disprove the flat earth.  From what I was able to see when I was told I should not be able to plus the high altitude balloon videos that showed no curve to the earth I have concluded that the earth was more likely than not flat as well as geocentric.

Green Bay, WI 31 miles from Bay Shore Park Oconto, WI
According to the earth curvature calculator, 505 feet should be hidden behind the earth's curvature.  Since the tallest building in Green Bay, WI is 120 feet, anything in Green Bay should not have been able to be seen.

  

While flat earth is important part of this post, belief in flat earth is not.  This post is NOT trying to prove or disprove the shape of the earth (flat or sphere)  but is about the poison that is being included in the flat earth movement and there is a LOT of poison added to it.

Most of those who are most vocal and popular in the flat earth movement are not Christian or are Christian with heretical doctrines they claim are believed by all who believe in flat earth.   I will refer to these people as the "flat earth leaders".    Many who believe "they" (NASA / government) are "totally deceptive" and who believe in the very controversial flat earth are ripe to accept anything else that these "flat earth leaders" tell them whether there is proof of it or not even if it is heretical and demonic.

I will go over some of these "flat earth leaders" and the lies and heresy they teach and why a follower of Messiah Yeshua should NOT be yoked with them regardless of what little truth they do teach.  I will then show how this relates to other aspects within the church and why it is very important to not be unequally yoked (whether in ministry, business, or marriage)

The first "flat earth leader" that people, including "christians" follow is the one who renewed interest in flat earth research.is Eric Dubay.  Dubay is a American new ager who teaches yoga in Thailand.  He introduces new age beliefs with his discussions of the flat earth.  Most people who believe the earth is flat will accept anything he says without question.

Phuket Word is a youtuber that lives in Phuket, Thailand.  I'm not sure of his association with Eric Dubay or if they are the same person.  This person includes budhism and budhist teachings in his discussions of flat earth.

Jeranism is a youtuber who monetizes his videos and it is unclear whether he makes flat earth videos because he believes it, or the ad revenue, or both.  Jeranism is not a follower of Messiah Yeshua and is either a pagan or secular humanist.  MANY flat earth believers accept whatever he says without question.

Paul On A Plane is a youtuber who desperately wants to become one of the "flat earth leaders" and will grasp at anything he can to gain views on his videos.  His non-scientific stupidity in carrying out "experiments: is nothing but brainwashing and is definitely not scientific.  Someone posted on his video that another youtuber channeled someone (IE: consulted demons) that was "on the other side of the dome" and he was excited to go find that video so he could make money off of that ear tickling demonic teaching.

The ministry 'Celebrate Truth' livestreams on youtube and they claim to be Christians that believe in a flat earth.  MANY "christians" chat there and while they talk the Christian talk, under closer scrutiny you find out they believe replacement theology and the demonic serpent seed doctrine (the belief that the Jewish people are physical descendants of Eve and satan).   They also are yoked to the teachings of Steven Anderson and Texe Marrs who also teach the serpent seed doctrine.  I emailed the channel owner Robbie Davidson / Celebrate Truth and he never responded to my query whether this was his belief or only the belief of 90% of his youtube channel moderators.

Another infamous "flat earth leader" that believes in the satanic serpent seed doctrine is Zen Garcia - who Rob Skiba is good buddies with (Skiba denies believing in replacement theology but that is what he teaches)  This goes to show how deception can be introduced by those who otherwise have some truth.  Like many in the Messianic movement, Skiba has taken it too far and believes that the church is the "real Israel" and those who are in Israel are "fake Jews".    Both Zen Garcia and Rob Skiba bring in deception subtly along with the research and truth about the flat earth.

"pastor" Dean Odle also teaches the flat earth and has some intelligent videos on it.  The problem is, Dean Odle is part of the apostate church system 'five fold ministry' that accepts as truth such demonic heresies as the "Toronto Blessing" and such demonic heretics as Todd Bentley and ihop / NAR heretics.

All of the "flat earth leaders" (and wanna be leaders) mentioned above claim all flat earth believers also believe the mandela affect is real (I wrote about that stupidity previously), chemtrails are real (most ridiculous thing I've ever heard) and all of them teach that "satellites are not real"  They also teach, due to their ignorance and/or stupidity that "the sun is within the clouds".  Many also claim all flat earthers have to accept every conspiracy theory that they, the "leader", believes in (after all, "I'm the expert and leader so you have to believe everything I believe.")  These people have set their selves up to be worshiped as "gods".

Whenever you point out their fallacies, they ignore what is stated and their blinded followers defend them.  While I can give numerous examples, I will just give a couple of examples so you can see their blindness.

Back in the 1980's, large satellite receiving dishes were very popular.  These 10' dishes were able to receive different satellites when moved (electronically) to point to the satellite location.  Hundreds of channels could be received from all around the United States / world including live unedited feeds from the television networks.  This was long before cell phone towers existed.

Satellite phones work in the jungles of Africa and South America where there are no cell phone towers.  I mention cell phone towers because these "flat earth leaders" claim "satellites are not real, they work off of cell phone towers".

Another example is where one "flat earth leader wanna be" was showing air routes on a flat earth map and his calculations from the flight was based on directions using the north pole as reference instead of magnetic north and he could not figure out why his route was so wrong.  His error was pointed out to him and he made no correction whle mirroring the video again (with monetizing on it, of course)  This person could not even grasp the concept that a cell phone level is electronic and measures the same angle relative to the ground no matter on where in the world it is at just as a person is perpendicular to the ground no matter which country they are in.  He continues to spew his stupidity and his deceived followers continue to defend him.

Just as in flat earth, heretics within the church also use the same tactics to deceive Christians into believing and following their heretical teachings.  Hillsong has a FEW good songs to lure people into their deceptive heretical poison where anything goes as long as you 'name the name of Jesus' while doing it.  This was shown recently when Justin Beiber went to a New Zealand bar with a Hillsong pastor where both were drinking heavily and Beiber started stripping in the bar.  Brian Houston, founder of the Hillsong cult, accepts homosexual leaders in the church, sees nothing wrong with having naked cowboys entertain in the woman's groups, and has incorporated all forms of blasphemy within the Hillsong cult.  A few good songs have lured numerous people into the web of the Hillsong apostasy.

satan is a deceiver and has numerous hooks of truth to lure people into lies and deception whether it be some truth of flat earth to lure people into all sorts of lies or whether it be a few good Hillsong songs to lure them into the great apostate Hillsong movement.  Be careful of what you believe and who you follow.  Do not yoke to unbelievers or even believers with heretical beliefs whether in ministry, business, or marriage because the other party / parties have some truth - remember satan uses a little truth to get people to compromise and swallow his lies and will use that little bit of truth to stumble you and make you fall if at all possible.

Jim Jones and the temple of doom OR the wolves in the churches

One thing all cult members have in common is that they believe they are following the truth and will die for the lie they have bought into.  Those that are too young to remember have heard the expression 'don't drink the koolaid' knowing it means to not buy into a lie but do not know where the expression came from.  It came from the Jim Jones cult (Peoples Temple of the Disciples of Christ) in Jonestown Guyana where over 900 people died, most by suicide, by drinking cyanide laced koolaid in november 1978.

Many "christians" have bought into various lies in their churches or fellowships because it was introduced by "a brother" (or "a sister")  People LOVE ear tickling lies and they will do ANYTHING to protect the smooth sounding lies that tickle their ears and the wolves that introduced those lies.  This has always been so.

Isaiah 30
9  That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
10  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: 

2 Timothy 4
3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

From outside of the cult, we can often see the error and wonder how so many could buy into the lie of such a cult yet some who wonder this are in their own cult or false belief system they uphold as being truth.  Both Messiah Yeshua and the apostle Paul warned about the wolves who would sneak in to deceive AND about the wolves who would rise up among them - people who were once sound in their beliefs that bought into a lie and then spread the lie.  The problem is that the overseers - the "pastors" and fellowship "leaders" refuse to protect the sheep from these wolves.  Many times they will expel those that warn about the wolves and allow the wolves to devour the sheep.  Yahweh will judge these hireling overseers.

Matthew 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Acts 20
28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three 
years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

John 10:12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

This apostasy  starts to spread like a cancer in once sound fellowships  because the apostates are allowed to continue in the fellowships "as brothers" (or "sisters") instead of being expelled as the apostle Paul instructs.  Sometimes the apostasy sneaks in and the fellowship swallows it before anyone knows what happened just like the proverbial frog is cooked before he knew what happened.

The boiling frog is an anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability or unwillingness of people to react to or be aware of threats that occur gradually.

1 Corinthians 5
9  I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10  Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

The apostasy in these last days is rampant.  All one needs to do is watch "christian" television or listen to "christian" radio for a few seconds to see the great apostasy in action.    The apostasy uses various forms to infiltrate the once sound churches / fellowships.  Often it is the claim that Yahweh wants you healthy and wealthy.  The draw for riches by "sowing a seed of faith" has been the means of wealth to many of the false prophets today.  They feed on the sheep who they deceive into believing that Yahweh will give them 100 times back financially if the sheep send them money.  Others buy into satanic and new age practices as "christian" because their favorite "christian" musicians are from churches that promote it.  Sheep are stupid animals and Yeshua using them as a metaphor for believers is fitting.

Music is a seduction of many.  The music ministry of Hillsong (Hillsong United) Bethel-Redding (Jesus Culture) and ihop (various) has been the means to seduce people into accepting such practices as grave sucking, fire walking, and acceptance of other doctrines Yahweh calls abominations (IE: acceptance of sodomites as part of the ministry for one)

There are many roads to hell claiming they are to God - there is a seduction and drawing for everyone.  satan does not care how you arrive in hell even if you claim to be a Christian all he cares about is your spending eternity separated from Yahweh.  Yeshua gave a warning that there will be MANY who claimed to be His and even doing "things for Him" but He will reject them because they did not OBEY Yahweh by following what He said in Torah.

1 John 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Matthew 7
21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. ^G458

Strong's number G458 iniquity (transliterated as anomia)   :
anomia
1) the condition of without law
     a) because ignorant of it
     b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

John14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John15:10  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1 John 2
3  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4  He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 5
2  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Revelation 14:12  Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

It isn't just the churches or large fellowships that need to be on guard against the wolves.  Even small fellowships are infiltrated by false prophets and deceivers doing all sorts of evil against those who warn against them.  Being a former victim of such evildoing, I can tell you the demons will not stop trying to destroy you if you warn against such false teachers.  If you belong to Yahweh, all you need to do is sit back and watch how He deals with such evildoers. 

One of the "leaders" in the fellowship I was in is far down the road of destruction and Yahweh is not even finished with him yet. He is a "christian" fortuneteller who is using kaballah to deceive people into thinking he can tell them their future and what is in store for them by secret codes he claims are hidden in the bible.  He refuses to teach and believe what is clearly in scripture.  All this while he divorces his wife and is under investigation for child neglect.  Yet he still has followers and people love his smooth sounding lies.

Deuteronomy 13
1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4  Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

satan is out to seek and destroy anyone he can.  The only way to protect yourself is to cleave to Yahweh and follow/obey Yeshua as Messiah.  Trust in Yahweh and follow what He CLEARLY says in scripture.  Forsake the smooth sounding prophets that will only speak smooth lies to you to flatter you (and likely they use their fortune telling to claim those warning against them are doomed)  Don't drink the Koolaid of these smooth sounding liars who pretend to be your friends - they are vicious wolves inside.  They may look like a sheep and pretend to be a sheep but they will tear you apart behind your back.

One tactic of a narcissist - which all cult leaders are - is to project their evildoing onto their chosen victim to make their victim look evil and to make them look like the one who is the victim.  I'm a daughter of a narcissistic mother who dealt with this my entire life so I understand what happened when the vicious evildoers (there were several) in the fellowship I was in spread their vile lies about me.  They claimed I did not live for Yahweh and my "lifestyle was not as I claimed" while they were having affairs and cheating on their spouses.  I have followed Yahweh since I was young and have not strayed as they claimed (I still do not know all of their lies although I know the truth about my life and know whatever they claimed had to have been very bad for some people to turn against me as they did)  They claimed I was a manipulator and evildoer while they were the ones manipulating people (and manipulating those people against me)  When I said to some of them to pray Yahweh strike down the evildoers (which included me if I was the evildoer) and bless those who were righteous in Messiah they claimed I wanted them dead - an admittance they knew what they were doing was evil and manipulative. 

Once again I pray Yahweh strike down the evildoers and bless the righteous - and reveal the truth to those who are truly wanting to follow Yahweh.  I'm very sad with how few want to know the truth and that so many believed the lies without even asking me what my side was.  It's hard for me to defend myself when I don't even know what all the lies were!

Proverbs 18:17  The first to state his case seems right, till the other one comes and cross-examines.

If a believer harms their brother (or sister) they would go to that brother (or sister) and reconcile.  Few of these people did this and they continue to whore after the wolf - an admittance they truly are not following Messiah Yeshua or obeying Yahweh as they claim.  I can only pray some of them have their eyes opened and repent before it is too late for them.  It seems most have chosen to drink the koolaid and are on the road to destruction while believing they are on the road to salvation.